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The Saga of the Strange Scam

19/1/2015

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Today in the Magic Thermos, absolutely nothing.  I left it at work on Friday.  I'm heartbroken (not really, just not nearly as spoiled... a good thing, if we all stop to think about it).

Today, I want to share with you a scam that some twit tried to pull on unsuspecting apartment seekers.  First, some back story.  The Amazing Flatmate has decided that our two bedroom apartment simply will not do.  I agree.  The Amazing Flatmate is now doing a fair amount of work at home, and the only space available is the living room.  This means boxes of fabric, yarn, sewing supplies and other paraphernalia of working in costuming are all over the living room.  There is room for one person at a time at the moment, so I tend to retreat to my bedroom a lot.  I very rarely use the living room any more, and I can't really remember the last time I actually puttered around in there by myself doing my thing.  Though, that will be changing soonish as the television and the Xbox are out there, and hopefully I'll soon be all set up for my SMC Awkwardly Plays segment on the Silver Stag Entertainment YoutTube channel.

So, we've been apartment hunting, hoping to find a reasonably sized and priced three bedroom apartment so that the Amazing Flatmate can have an office to work in.  During that search, we stumbled across a Craigslist ad for a whole house being offered at $950.00 per month, utilities included.  The house was not far from where we are now, with a beautiful deck and yard, and a garage that could be turned into a workshop...  It is beautiful!  It came fully furnished, which we were not thrilled about... we have our own stuff.  Still, the price seemed too good to be true, so the Amazing Flatmate sent the guy an email:
Hello,

My roommate and I are looking for a bigger place so that we could have some office space and your place looks like it would be pretty perfect.  Could we come and look sometime?

Please let me know!  Thank you.
The following day, she received a slightly in coherent reply:
Hello,

The house has 3 bedroom and it cost $950p/m so i am willing to rent it out.. Firstly i will like to know how long you want to stay in my house,because I'm not in Ottawa, Ontario now, as i'm in Georgia, USA now because i just secured a new job here in USA and i will be renting it out for a long time now, as long as you want to stay, It cost $950 per month which include the utilities in the house. It is spacious furnished bedroom, hardwood floor plus secured parking, close to schools and major shopping malls. Comes Furnished with: ***Washer & Dryer, fridge and Stove, TV, Internet, AC, Heater, cooker and lot more.

The house is located in a very peaceful and cool environment, it is 3 bedroom with a kitchen,toilet and bathroom and a living room,the whole house cost $950 per month,also the house is located at:- 1248 Collins Ave Ottawa, ON K1V 6E1, Canada.

MY TERMS AND CONDITION ARE:

1. I ALLOW PETS IN MY HOUSE.
2. I WILL NOT ALLOW ARROGANT
3. CLEANINGS AND TIDINESS IS IMPORTANT.

So if you are still interested let me know asap to proceed on the next step...... Feel free to ask any question.

Regards
When she forwarded the email to me, my back immediately went up.  We're not taking that house, I thought to myself.  No way.  This guy is probably the most nightmarish of landlord types, not to mention the nightmarish spelling and grammar mistakes in the email.  And he will not allow arrogant...  What?  Arrogant what?  FINISHED THE DAMNED SENTENCE!

Ahem.

I wrote back and told the Amazing Flatmate that I had a really bad feeling about that house and I'm not interested in moving in there, not for any seemingly impossibly good deal.  Still, there was the issue of the furnishings that the Amazing Flatmate wanted answered:
Thank you so much for your reply.  I am very interested however I'm wondering if there's a possibility of getting it unfurnished?  I do have my own things I would prefer to move in with.

Thanks again.
To her credit, all the same red flags were popping up for the Amazing Flatmate, and she commiserated with her mother.  As it happens, her mother lives very near the house and knows the couple who are renting it.  That couple is not the same person with whom the Amazing Flatmate had been emailing back and forth.  Furthermore, the couple were renting it for considerably more - more than double - the price listed in the Craigslist ad.  Sure enough, when the Amazing Flatmate checked, the beautiful little house was listed with another site by the right people.  They had photos and everything (it's a lovely house, but at $2 000 a month, well out of our price range.  I wish I wasn't so poor).  The Amazing Flatmate told the story and she and I both were exactly like this:
Picture
Image courtesy of Meme Storage. Click for link.
Immediately followed by a mutual:
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Image courtesy of Funny Junk. Click for link.
The Amazing Flatmate asked me if I thought she was a bad person.  I told her yes, she was... but for all the right reasons!  Time to troll!

The hapless scammer answered the Amazing Flatmate thusly:
Thanks for your mail and also sorry for my late response to your message, I've been busy at the hospital with my wife and I pray I don't loose her.. So please forgive me for that, once again thanks for your full interest in my house. Attached are the pictures. It is available as soon as you want it,also if you're moving in with your furniture's there's no problem with that as there's a storage where you can move my stuffs. Its $950 per month, all bills are included in the cost of the house.. Like i told you that i'm not in Ottawa at the moment, that i just secured a new job in a company here in Georgia, USA, which mean i will be renting it out for a long time, am sorry you will not be able to view the interior at the moment but you can drive by to view the exterior, Because the house is currently locked up and have the keys here with me, So for you to get the keys, it will be posted to you via DHL Express along with the payment receipt and all the necessary papers,You will have to make a payment for the place via a money agent to me here in USA but before the payment, you and i will have to sign a rental agreement form in which i will like you to supply me the following details for me to prepare the form and send to you. You can move in as soon as you want:

APPLICANT INFORMATION:

Name (full name): ____________________
Current Address (full address): ____________________
Date of Birth: ____ / ____ / ____
Home Phone: _______________________
Work Phone: _______________________
Cell Phone:_______________________
Move in: _______________________
Move Out Date: _______________________
How many month rent can you pay upfront to secure the House now ? ___________

You can call me on this number : [number redacted]

Best Regards
I'm going to feel really bad if this is true, but neither the Amazing Flatmate nor myself believed the hospitalised wife story even remotely.  Nor were we about to ship off any money whatsoever.  Smart people like us (debatable, but let's ignore that for the moment) do not rent properties sight unseen.  Can I get a NOPE?
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Image courtesy of Meme Kid. Click for link.
So naturally, the Amazing Flatmate got her smart-ass on:
No worries about the late reply, I completely understand.  I'm so sorry about your wife, I'm going through a similar thing with my twin sister, she's on life support now, I'm praying to Eir every day for her.

I went by the house the other day and there's an Ottawa Rental Properties sign on the front lawn.  Should I get in touch with them to see the inside?

For the record, the Amazing Flatmate does not have a twin sister, and this non-existent person is not on life support.  Also, Eir is a Norse deity (Valkerie or goddess, it is currently under debate) associated with helping, healing and medical intervention.  I laughed so hard when I read her reply.  Oh, but it didn't end there.  No, Mr. Scam artist kept it up:
Thanks for your quick response to my message and also thanks for your concerned about my wife, may God be with your and your family as well. Once again thanks for your full interest in my house. God will heal your twin sister as well, I think it will be so foolish for a Man of God to cheat on you or get the money and  Keys and Documents won't be send to you... As it was writing in the book of the Lord "What shall it profit a man to gain the whole world and loss his soul ".

Honestly! The House is currently locked up and i have the keys here with me, which no one had the spares over there, and i tried to email the only trustworthy, Mission friend i have in Ottawa, maybe the keys can be send to him, but he sent me an email back that he wasn't around at the moment, that he had left to Germany for 8 Months job training programme. When i come to think of it and put my legs in your shoes, i  see that is too much risk or send money to the person you have not seen. But if you could trust me as i will be honest with you, do get back to me with the first month rent, then immediately i confirmed the payment i will get the Parcel send to you in the next 24hrs...

Meanwhile, you're to get back to me as soon as possible with the Applicant information's

Stay Bless !!!
Of course, now he is a "Man of God" and thus must be incapable of scamming anyone... perish the thought!  He might "loss his soul."  Also, he'd be willing to trust the keys to his Mission friend, but the bastard decided to up and go to Germany for 8 months.  Those German heathens need to word of the Lord and Saviour!  Or something.

Needless to say, the Amazing Flatmate did not send the "Applicant's information's." Instead, she sent this:
Thank you [name redacted]!  Blessings to you too!

Rent in Ottawa Property Management still has their sign up on the lawn so could you send the key to them so I can see the inside?  I have to know how much space there is.  Or do you have other pictures and measurements of the rooms?  

I'm specifically interested in the layout of the garage/workshop area and how I could set up my chicken and rabbit coops.

Thank you and may Eir visit you and your wife with her healing hands!
We don't have chicken or rabbit coops.  Nor are we pagan.  We are, however, very amused.  Alas, our favourite scam artist is less so:
Thanks for your mail and I am very sorry for my late response to your message. In regards to your message I really want you to know that in my previous email I make you understand that the only trustworthy Mission friend i have is out Ottawa and I have no one there to represent or show you round the property. Meanwhile, I am not OK with sending out the Parcel to a Property Management you, if only you can make half payment of first month rent, then I will send out the Parcel to your address or wherever you want me to send it to and if you're not OK with this, I will advice you to look for another place.

Stay Bless !!!
Alas, this is as far as it has gone.  The Amazing Flatmate has grown bored with it all, and has yet to answer this twit.

Word to the wise, never send anyone trying to rent a property money ever without first a) having seen the place and thus certain you want to rent it, and b) checking to make sure they're legit.  This guy clearly wasn't and isn't.  His Craigslist ad has been removed, as the Amazing Flatmate had informed the actual renters of what was going on and they in turn contacted Craigslist.

Unfortunately, they did not offer us the house for a price we can afford and thus we are still looking for a new place to live.  Le sigh.  That house was really very sweet and absolutely perfect and now it is out of our reach forever.  Unless I win the lotto... In which case I would just buy a house.  In the country.  With horses.

Anyway, that is the Saga of the Strange Scam.  It amuses me, mostly because I have no qualms about screwing with people who are trying to screw over other people, and the Amazing Flatmate constantly cracks me up.

I'm off to continue with my Welsh lessons.  Have a wonderful day and...

Stay Bless !!!
11 Comments
Glenn Cauley
19/1/2015 03:06:05 am

I think "gobsmacked" is the word I am looking for, while I scoop my jaw up off the ground.

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Susan
19/1/2015 04:01:21 am

Well good for you and the Amazing Flatmate for kicking this guy to the curb! I thought that was highly entertaining and most excellent that you guys didn't fall for this. I'm not aware that rental applications were done via email now o.O (something to consider and look up I'm sure...)

Good luck finding a place! I will try to keep an eye out :D

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S.M. Carrière link
19/1/2015 04:37:16 am

Thanks!

Oddly enough, when I was looking for a place before I moved in with the Amazing Flatmate, I had found something similar. I don't think this kind of scam is as rare as you would think.

Hopefully we'll find a suitable place soon. Or I'll win the lotto and buy a house.

Preferably the latter, but who knows?

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WTL link
19/1/2015 08:52:39 am

I'll have to have a talk with AF. She could have trolled them for so much more. I used to troll telemarketers before they stopped calling me.

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S.M. Carrière link
19/1/2015 02:56:10 pm

Oh really? I would love to see what AF would come up with!

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Bill Eggleton
19/1/2015 11:34:52 pm

Yeah scammers are everywhere. We were contacted by one when we were trying to sell a horse. "I am very interested in your horse and plan to bring with me to China. If you could ship the horse to my agent in <whereever>, I will reimburse the shipping cost when I send you the payment for the horse...yada yada yada..." Of course this is in better English than what we received. It got our interest as they initially offered more than our asking price. Of course when they asked us to ship the horse at our cost. Too bad we were not as quick as AF to mess around with them...:)

BTW, I thought there was a provincial law that requires owners of rental properties to have a local property manager if they are not local themselves. Sue? Of course that would not stop the scammers from trying and preying on the unsuspecting...

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S.M. Carrière link
20/1/2015 01:31:20 am

There very well might be that law, though I doubt too many renters are all that familiar with it. It makes sense, though. There was a sign for a local property manager on the lawn and that couple are currently out of province.

It's hardly worth suing over. We didn't lose any money over it. There was no real harm done. As for the owners... I have no idea what they intend to do with the scammer.

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Andre Racicot
26/1/2015 07:09:08 am

If you're still looking, I think my condo building has a few apartments available for rent. I'm not sure if you had a particular area of town in mind, but you can hit me up via email for more detail!

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S.M. Carrière link
26/1/2015 08:44:19 am

Where abouts are you located?

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gav
26/1/2015 04:11:23 pm

I dealt with the exact same scammer! I received the same emails, same conditions, same sob story, same mission friend, even the storage space line and man of God assurances are the same. The only difference was that my guy was supposedly in England and the place was in sandy hill. Unbelievable.

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S.M. Carrière link
27/1/2015 01:23:29 am

Uh!

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